@Tfmonkey - Would there be some venn diagram overlap between cny enthusiasts and actual pedos? I'm sure.
But being one of either category, doesn't mean a person is necessarily the other as well.
Just a thought. 🤔🍻
Edit: I've heard TFM's views on losing respect for people. So I'll volunteer the reason it's an area of interest for me. I was raised in a house with horrific sexual child abuse, & very real consequences. My larger aim, is to get to the bottom of why it happens. Also, I like anime.
@YoMomz all child molesters are pedophiles, but not all pedophiles are child molesters, but it's rational to shame and stigmatize pedophilia so it doesn't mature into child molestation.
As for why it happens? Probably the same reason gay people happen, hormone imbalances and being molested themselves as children.
@Tfmonkey - I agree with the broad strokes. I guess I have a vested interest in ending the negative consequences.
I have an eye to the rebuild effort in the post-collapse. And this topic is a tough one, not in terms of defining right and wrong, but in determining cause and effect. And in terms of prevention, because the material dependency of the victims is real.
So I feel a strong sense of duty in getting that right, in the accuracy of diagnosis. I'll keep theorizing. Cheers, sir. 🍻
@fal1026 @Tfmonkey - Given it a lot of thought - a list of things that likely won't exist post-collapse:
Public Service announcements
Awareness campaigns
A police/surveillance state
Public schools (where one can report to a teacher)
Reporting hotlines
Foster care
And knowing people, there's bound to be someone in any community who says "this is my culture".
Tentative solutions for a community:
Molest someone else's kids: beheading
Molest your own kids: GTFO.
Thoughts?
@Virtuality @Tfmonkey - It's just an observation... a "noticing". Women are children (mentally/emotionally).
Hypothesis: By the time they hit twenty, females are children who've been spoiled by all the attention. When their tits are brand new (to be vulgarly blunt), the attention is still new to them. So they still act demure. Timidity and being demure is both feminine & child-like.
Hopefully that clarifies what I meant by that.
@Virtuality @Tfmonkey - And furthermore, I suspect that men, who would otherwise not be tempted to attempt a seduction of a mid-teens female... Have a biological drive to try, in the absence of feminine 20yos.
I respect TFM without reservation, and I understand the logic he presents. But I think his take on this contributes to a Salem witch trial mentality.
I can't help suspecting he had a viewer go rogue or something - and he feels a misplaced sense of guilt. Pure speculation though. 🤔🤷🏻♂️
@Virtuality @Tfmonkey - An afterthought hit me at work. It occurred to me that you may be young, and if so... Perhaps it seems like a bridge too far, to connect child-like with feminine (Since femininity is so rare anymore).
If your curiosity is piqued though, I'd recommend watching some old black and white movies or TV. Arguably, Hollywood has always been feminist. But you may be shocked at how the females carry themselves, in terms of timidity and meekness.
@Virtuality @Tfmonkey - I recommend the Dick Van Dyke Show. It's cute and genuinely funny. Plus, Mary Tyler Moore was hot as fuck, with excellent taste in sweaters.
😉👍
Alternatively, "It's a Wonderful Life" might be another good example.
And the crazy part is, these would have been feminist portrayals at the time. I can only imagine how the average woman must've carried herself.
Michael Langone, Steven Hassan, Ted Patrick wrote books about cult deprogramming and did not say to join a specific major religion in the books I read
Unlike some badly written books by so called Christians that say their doctrine does not agree with the Bible therefor the group is bad but do not correctly represent the Bible
Sex abuse is a theme in cults
I have a lot more ideas to your question but I do not have time to discuss it now
@shortstories @Tfmonkey - I'm not at all surprised about sex abuse in cults - or religions. Both are a means of power.
And one of the biggest reasons to pursue power, is access to sex & reproduction. For a pedo, it'd be all the same.
In my ideal post-collapse society, in-group females would only ever have one partner: their husband. And their fathers (or guardians) would choose their husbands (up to 10yrs older). Females would be eligible at 16. No-sex courting (negotiations) starts at 15.
Based on fallible memory of what I read years ago from sources not listed
Statistics have been gotten from the prison population who were caught
Low IQ (caught)
2 / 3 fall in one of the two categories
1 are primarily attracted to adults but can not get consistent access to a adult partner, such as a spouse who refuses access. So they commit the crime because it is easy access
2 Are delusional due to mental health
1 / 3 commit the crime based on primary attraction
I suspect there is another group with a incredibly high IQ who is not caught and never imprisoned and who they have no statistics on
There are two categories
1
People who have very high IQ and high impulse control and who choose not to commit the crime as opposed to the group who was caught who I suspect have low impulse control and low IQ and was stupid enough to commit the crime
2
So called "Satanists" who work on the same team as the government and are not arrested
@shortstories @Tfmonkey - I have suspected much the same for a long time. I'm an avid student of history, and it's not hard to find accounts throughout the ages. I think it's just part of the human toolbox. The problem, is in the act, and the consequences of the act. So for that reason:
High IQ + impulse control + not committing the crime = no problem
Committing the crime = problem
Problem is addressed by beheading for targeting someone else's kids, and by banishment for someone's own kids.
@shortstories @Tfmonkey - Why only banishment for someone's own kids? 🤔 Well, false accusations are so common, and you can't reverse a beheading. But if someone ends up exonerated, you can always un-banish them. And in such a case, the false accuser would be banished instead at the discretion of the victim (a father may not wish to banish their child after exoneration - so that would be up to them. Though something tells me a husband would be much less forgiving of a treacherous wife).
From my fallible memory of what I read years ago from sources not listed
50% of victims were girls
50% of victims were boys
Since less than half of males were bisexual or homosexual ( in the years when I read it although this might have changed )
And if much more males were imprisoned than females for these crimes
This suggests
A larger percentage of homosexual or bisexual males commit these crimes than heterosexual males
Or homosexual males have more victims per person
@Tfmonkey - Working theory: post pubescent female minors, display behavioral traits of femininity that used to be found in grown women - and they have tits. So, count another casualty to gynocentrism and the missing pimp hand.
Attraction to prepubescent females, is tougher to figure out. So far, I put that in the serial killer category - a certain small percentage of loose screws, that like the poor, will always be with us.