@Tfmonkey ➡️ Given all that... I was wondering about the legal requirement of "fiduciary responsibility" being a legal requirement for corporate board members (I think that's it. I'm kinda ignorant on corporate structure to be honest... which is why I'm curious to hear your opinion).

What if we eliminated that legal requirement that corporations must act in order to maximize profits? Like, what's the worst that could happen?

@Tfmonkey - Hoped for upside:
- Allows corporate MGMT to pursue long term vision, at the risk of short term profit.
- Allows corporations to prioritize (or simply comply with public zeitgeist) social trends - for example, instead of off-shoring in strict pursuit of profit, a company could hire domestic at the risk of some profit.

Possible downside:
- greater risk for investors. But maybe that's just part of the gamble?

What do you think? Am I far wrong in that it might broadly help culturally?

@Tfmonkey - Anticipated objection: shareholders are owners, and that's why the requirement for fiduciary responsibility exists.. 🤔 and it'd be a fair point.

But what if shareholders weren't owners? What if they bought rights to profit-sharing, contingent on profit being available, but without corporate control? ..or maybe limited corporate control.

In real estate, water rights, mineral rights, surface rights, etc, all exist on the same land. Maybe corporate ownership could be similarly split?

@YoMomz @Tfmonkey AA's answer identifies that English capitalism was different before corrupted business practices,they had gentleman rules that kept the markets stable.Usury practices which is part of Jewish religious practices undermine the market so they could hostile take over and control each sector.As TFM mentioned as soon as America pulled out of Afghanistan,the Taliban took over and corrected the enforcement of buttsex and feminism,Jewish Ideals have become "That's just Business".

@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey - Re: "Capital seeks to..." Only children take everything literally.

I was asking for TFM's thoughts.

And aren't you supposed to be evangelizing to groypers anyway? Go do that. Please.

A problem with many so called capitalists is they say it is ok if corporations do whatever but not if governments do the same thing

Then the government just hires the corporations to do that thing

They imagine an anarcho capitalist or libertarian capitalist society in which corporations could be good and would be punished by consumers & rival corporations for doing bad and excuse the bad behavior of corporations

They do not acknowledge the difference between theoritical & real behavior

In other words

The problem with Anarcho Capitalists & Libertarian Capitalists is they imagine Corporations are behaving the way they would in an Anarcho Capitalist or Libertarian Capitalist society and treat them as such

When in reality Corporations are behaving the way they would in a Fascist society with Reverse Communism in which the workimg class on the bottom is taxed to pay for Rich Government Supporting Corporations to do the well of a government that is trying to genocide them

There are many big differences between corporations and mafias (or governments if you prefer). Stolen money is easier to spend carelessly for example, efficiency matters a lot more to corporations as that's how they earn money. Mafias are the inverse.

People act in their own self interest and most people don't want to be executed in the streets. This will keep the corporations in line far more than bribed politicians, who constantly fellate them, ever could.

@Sui

Is it the politicians that are bribed by the corporations with lobbyists or the corporations that are bribed by the politicians with government contracts using taxpayer money

I would argue that it happens in both directions

And that it is the same team that ends up in management of both givernments and corporations

And they manage things at the highest level through news outlets that shape the policies of governments, corporations, universities and religious denominations

Lobbyists are the larger problem of the two by far, because mafias have far more power (and consequence) than corporations do. They make up the laws and don't hold themselves accountable. It does happen in both directions though sure, but without a government who is there to bribe?

> And that it is the same team that ends up in management of both givernments and corporations

Yes, sociopaths rise to the top in our current societal structures. I don't believe the media shapes the policies of government at all tbh, the government is 100% completely unaccountable even to it's own promises and campaigns. So what if media turns on them? It can even work in their favour like with the orange pedo.

@Sui

Before you conclude it is not the news media that is in charge I would suggest you read the first two books by Steven Hassan and Familiarize yourself with the works of Tim Ozman from infinite plane radio

Steven Hassan's third and fourth books are simply second editions of his first two books in my opinion so you could read the second edition or the first edition

If a cult leader controls a group it comes from the source of information at the top which is the news

freedomofmind.com

Propaganda's used as a tool by the elites to influence the livestock sure, but it is not the primary field of the elites. At most it can try and push simple narratives like "this thing/person good/bad" to braindead normies, but again the government is not accountable to the whims of the livestock and can freely lie about whatever they want for votes. The narrative doesn't matter at all when people can larp for it, then do the exact opposite without consequence. It also doesn't matter as regardless of which side the media's on, the uniparty is still going to win every single time. And behind that uniparty are the same people, lobbying away for their own self interests.

@YoMomz @Tfmonkey

Opinion - why corporations trade greater short term profits in exchange for lower long term profits

1 Government Policy - If I remember correctly Ashkenazi or Sephardic Jews sued Henry Ford to force him to maximize short term profits

2 People tend to trade long term delayed gratification for short term immediate gratification especially if the selection methods to eliminate short term pleasure seekers have been removed from society by government and corporate policies