@Tfmonkey am having argument , guy is saying there is objective moral .am saying to him thats bullshite hence heart ripping sacrifies
If someone does not want to be murdered it makes sense to choose to live in a community where murder is punished with imprisonment or execution to prevent people from doing repeat murders so that you do not get murdered by them
As a result of choosing to live in that community to reduce the chance of getting murdered if one does not want to have a physical consequence of imprisonment or execution for murder then one would adopt a value system of not murdering
@Zeb @dander @Tfmonkey
Morality is both objective and relative
It is relative to the standard you choose to set
And objective based on that standard once you set a standard
There are physical consequences to actions
If you have a system to choose the actions that result in one set of physical consequences that you consider preferable to another set of physical consequences that would result from a different set of available actions then that system is a moral value system