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@Tfmonkey am having argument , guy is saying there is objective moral .am saying to him thats bullshite hence heart ripping sacrifies

@dander @Tfmonkey If it's objective, ask him to list each of what is morally acceptable, morally unacceptable and have everyone agree on it.

@Zeb @dander @Tfmonkey

Morality is both objective and relative

It is relative to the standard you choose to set

And objective based on that standard once you set a standard

There are physical consequences to actions

If you have a system to choose the actions that result in one set of physical consequences that you consider preferable to another set of physical consequences that would result from a different set of available actions then that system is a moral value system

@Zeb @dander @Tfmonkey

If someone does not want to be murdered it makes sense to choose to live in a community where murder is punished with imprisonment or execution to prevent people from doing repeat murders so that you do not get murdered by them

As a result of choosing to live in that community to reduce the chance of getting murdered if one does not want to have a physical consequence of imprisonment or execution for murder then one would adopt a value system of not murdering

@Zeb @Tfmonkey the guy was saying that the niggas in tax havens are immoral and he is justified with taking a military fleet to blow them up ........

@dander @Zeb you're immoral for not paying for his welfare so he's justified in killing you and taking it.

There is but one answer for these people.

@dander @Zeb @Tfmonkey You're arguing with someone who doesn't understand the difference between his own value judgments and normative morality as such.

@DoubleD @dander @Zeb they're likely stupid and can't understand any other perspective that conflicts with their own (i.e. what's good for me is good for everyone and if you disagree you're evil)

@dander there are no objective morals because there are no objective universal values. It's all about perceived self interest.

What's good for the lion is bad for the gazelle.

@Tfmonkey i more or less said the same thing to him and his reaction was , pretty much muh group needs trump ur individual needs , he went so far to say that the reason he justifices killing billionaires is because it will be like exile from the tribe and because of that their property is forfiet ....this is why we cant have nice things

ofcoz i asked him , wat he values most amongst , freedom , equality,tradition, u can pretty much guess wat he chose, fun tip it comes with free helicopter rides

@dander leftists are basically children flipping the table when they lose a board game screaming "no fair, you cheated. I want to play something else where I win".

@Tfmonkey @dander It's kinda funny that of all the possible ways the leftists could temporarily lose, the hamas liberation attack would be the turning point.

@Tfmonkey is the gummy worms still doing gods work?, has the culling ramped up in your sphere? i hope so,i need it

@dander without boosters, the RNA would have had to encode itself into the person's DNA to produce protein in the blood indefinitely, as we have no idea how common that is because nobody is looking into it due to the politics involved.

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