I'm confused about this Trump verdict.
So he has a 355 million fine for supposedly overvaluing his real estate to get better bank loans.
Why is it not the lenders he supposedly defrauded suing him instead of the state of New york?
Why is the state of New York interfering with private business?
Can someone explain this to me I'm kinda confused
If they are trying to get rid of trump then why didn't they charge him with something that puts him in jail
@basedbagel The government determines the value. They do take into account what current market rates are. But in the end, it's the appraisal district whose opinion matters. You can hire an appraiser or real estate agent to give a second opinion, but at best the court will just throw you a bone and lower it a tad, but that's it.
@RoninGrey @basedbagel @shortstories Ronin is correct about valuation of realestate. As to your question about why the lender didn't sue Trump and the state is as well as why not charge him with a crime, criminal court is more difficult in terms of getting a guilty verdict and achieving an conviction by design in the US. The government doesn't need to put someone behind bars to keep them out of power. Keep in mind that this verdict wasn't on whether or not Trump was guilty of fraud...
@RoninGrey @basedbagel @shortstories ...The hearings and trial verdict were to determine how much Trump had to pay. In certain types of civil cases, a judge can just declare you guilty like this one did.
If you read the judgement, the plaintiff is "PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, BY LETITIA
JAMES, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF NEW
YORK", meaning all of the defendant's damage payments go to the NY government....
Ok so this is legalized extortion then? Got it.
Just wanted to make sure I understood what was going on without bias because I really don't understand real estate or NY law
@basedbagel @DoubleD @shortstories Well, no, it is at least based a lot on market price in the area and assumes home prices go up (they usually do). But it is a bit of guesswork. That's why you can go to them and say "My home specifically is worth 'X'."
The extortion is being taxed at all, imo.
@RoninGrey @basedbagel @DoubleD
Involuntary property tax for services you did not agree to be taxed in exchange for is the method to commit genocide against working non parasite people especially white gentiles
@RoninGrey @basedbagel @shortstories
...Additionally, "an Independent Director of Compliance shall be installed at the Trump Organization at defendants' expense to ensure compliance with financial reporting obligations and to establish internal written accounting..."
Trump opposed the government, and so they are levying a punishment fine and placing a political officer (I'm taking liberty with that title.) in his organization.
Full judgement: https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/f203be39-020c-4f82-a423-96aa20c08e3a.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_1
@basedbagel It doesn't matter. In so far as the state might be concerned if he was pumping the value up post any transaction for better loans they'd want a piece of it for their tax pie since they're a negative tax state. None of it really matters though.
@basedbagel - the state/cathedral is trying to make an example of Trump. It's like the ancient Chinese usurper who presented a deer to the imperial court as a horse, and executed anyone who wouldn't call it a horse.
We're in the end game.
Also who determines the value of real estate?
Is there some sort of Kelley Blue book for a real estate?
I just assumed that real estate was worth whatever anyone was willing to pay for it?