The wall is a myth. Any woman can get married at any age she pleases.
@Scubbie You can scratch all that.
All she needs is to be ABLE to fuck.
I know women in their mid 50's with dudes CHASING them as they're still hoeing about.
Yet people will still tell me about this mythical wall.
@basedbagel again with this stupid bullshit nonsense, dud you just sound like a black pill crybaby now. Sorry but I dont see women as winning at all, you dont get ti say that you win yhe race of life just because you had a good start, the end od the race matters just as much if not more, and modern women in general are just not winning. I personally just witnessed a women at my place of work who was so desperate that litteraly married a guy she just met, 1/2
@37712 I know it sounds black pill but a broken clock is right twice a day.
Women are getting more degrees than men, buying more homes than men and have the entire government apparatus at their disposal.
Red pillers say that women >30 are undesirable. This is not true.
You forget 95% of the world is blue pill and they will gladly risk it all just for a woman's validation.
@basedbagel @37712 >Red pillers say that women >30 are undesirable.
There needs to be some clarification here. It is not so much that a woman becomes completely unable to find relationships/husband's after 30, but her options get more and more limited after she is 30 and the become more limited as she gets older. She will most likely not get the ideal man she wants after 30 (unlike in her early 20s).
Also, this assumes that a woman is taking the best care of herself after 30, and many do not.
@basedbagel @37712 Let us also not forget how women have inflated expectations based on their dating/sleeping around in their 20s. They often think that the kind of men who would be willing to sleep with them or short term date them are the kind of man she should be able to get past 30. But often that is not the case.
For women who do "settle" for a guy who she would previously overlook in her 20s, they often resent the guy who they end up with, even though he did nothing wrong.
@houseoftolstoy
Dang, you hit the nail straight in the head.
At the end women are their worst enemies and always end uo destroing their own happynes
@houseoftolstoy @basedbagel @37712 One "shock jock" radio guy called 30 the "expiration date". That's cruel, and it's not that sudden. But I've known many women who commented on the whiplash in dating as they progress into their 30's.
It doesn't help that a lot of the things guys found cute in a 22YO are not a good look at all in a 30+ woman.
@vandys @houseoftolstoy @basedbagel lol I know what you mean guys will out up with a lit of bull when a girl is in their early 20s but they keep that same attitude well in ti their 30s and then complain that men aren't worth shit cuz they wont date them or commit to them.
@37712 @vandys @houseoftolstoy
I agree but I would like to clarify that what you said only applies to men with a backbone.
Most western men have NO self respect and will put up with anything a woman throws at them.
They see it as a sign of masculinity to suffer with a lousy bitch.
@basedbagel @37712 @houseoftolstoy
Sure, poor self esteem is a great way to achieve poor results.
Another thing I keep hearing about is guys whose desires are shaped by very hard porn. They break out these moves IRL and the results are... poor.
I see what you're saying @houseoftolstoy @37712
but IMO dating coaches WAY over-exaggerate the limited options.
From what I see women's options just age up with them as do mens.
Dating coaches fool guys into thinking 50+ y/o men get 25 y/o pussy just for making $$ when that's not really the case outside of famous people.
Also remember 95% of guys are blue pill and don't understand their value so it fucks up the market.
"women have inflated expectations based on their dating/sleeping around in their 20"
This is true.
In my anecdotal experience they tend to adjust to reality when they realize this.
"they often resent the guy who they end up with, even though he did nothing wrong."
Spot on! My only defense to that is due to women's hypergamous nature this will be the case no matter who they end up with.
It's not their fault that God made them such sad miserable creatures
@basedbagel 2/2 the guy is several levels below her market value, he does not even have money or a stable job and she will have to keep working, also no one at work expects her marriage to last even a year. Bitch is just crazy and desperate, has been depressed for some time bc she does not have a family and she is post wall. Her marriage will be a train wreck, she cant even have kids anymore. She still has a dumb mind set of finding herself in her late 30s and trying new things.
@37712 I believe your story but history shows us bitches have ALWAYS been cray.
It's just that now we have the stats to back it up.
Also women work because they WANT to.
Don't let them fool you otherwise.
Even if you're right I'll give you that but 1 woman /= all women.
Unless you are red pill you have NO CHANCE against women in this gynocracy.
@basedbagel @37712 I'd argue you don't have a chance unless you're extremely good with reading them and even then that only increases your chances from 25% to 50% ultimately you need to go somewhere where you will have the ability to control woman, i.e Islam/middle east
@basedbagel If she can cook,fuck suck and clean she has value.But on two different occasions this weekend I have seen late 20 to 30 year old women digging in trash bins for food but maybe they are Freegans.