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@Mongoliaboo @Tfmonkey But the demographic enforcing the tyranny and giving women rights, aren't women, Jews nor welfare sponges. It's the average man, the "not my problem"/"just following orders" law abiding taxpayer. Women are a non-issue, Jews are nothing without the goyim and welfare sponges aren't financing the dystopia. So who's really at fault? Who's really the problem?

@shortstories In the current system, they'd be no different. But a male feminist is still worse. Women are a non-factor. Had they been the ones to give themselves rights and enforce feminism, then yeah, a female leader would be my choice. But that's not what happened, it was men who destroyed patriarchy and enforced feminism. Women aren't competent or dangerous enough to be an issue. The danger are collectivist men.

@UncleIroh I too am expecting pain and bloodshed, but there is no guarantee they won't lead to slavery. Imagine the West faces a complete defeat and is annexed by China, through the UN. Well, no need to change course at all, the UN was already planning for the West to become China. Sure, you'll have patriarchy, as in the ruling class will be mostly men, but it'll be a dystopia all the same.
I don't care if men are in power, I just want to live freely, that's the only W that matters in my book.

@UncleIroh I'm not concerned about patriarchy at all, because women are a non-factor, they weren't even the ones that gave themselves rights. TWRA is inevitable, as long as the weak are culled, that's what I'm worried about.
Hell, I'd take a fictional matriarchy (would never work in real life) if it meant collectivism was destroyed and individualism/freedom were promoted.

Sadly the West is irredeemable and the East, China specifically, is the model for the Cathedral. There are no good options.

@RodrickSage They won't do anything, asians have even less testosterone than Whites.
They will take it and they will like it, as long as they have a job to go to and anime to watch.

@UncleIroh @Zeb I agree we need both, but we've killed too many and destroyed their smaller groups/cultures throughout the centuries, individualists are outnumbered at least a 1000 to 1. Imperialism and globalism wiped out individualism.

The only way humans won't evolve to become an ant-like colony of individually weak NPCs at this point, is if the balance is restored and these sheep leave the gene pool somehow, otherwise collectivism WILL become human nature for good. No future is worse.

@themodernstoic If the men were made weak by women, then it's only because their fathers allowed it. And even then, I don't buy that excuse at all. Men became weak because they bent the knee one too many times. The brave and strong who didn't submit to the government were hunted down and either killed or jailed. Weak men rose to power, not because of women (not at first anyway), but because of their sheer numbers and technological advancements, the strong individualists just couldn't compete.

@UncleIroh @Zeb To an extent yes, but I refuse to call it "human nature" as it's not universal. Sure, collectivists are the majority. However, there are enough people out there who are incapable of blindly following the group, even if it's by far the safer and more financially rewarding option.
Just like the native Americans that couldn't be broken and enslaved to the degree other people could, some humans have different instincts that might become the norm in the right circumstances.

@Tfmonkey They're only a problem if you don't want this sick society to collapse. If on the other hand, you want to promote the disease, then sure, take their rights away so we can have more normies and more people on a planet that doesn't have enough space and resources for them.

Women are just a symptom of the problem. Who is enforcing the tyranny and "just following orders"? Is it the women, the Jews, the welfare sponges, OR is it just your average schmuck? Who's really the problem?

@Mongoliaboo Yup, I won't entertain any talk of "honor", or legalities, when we're living in a dystopia. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who tells you to remain peaceful and that "there are good men and women serving in the military/police" are controlled op who will stand in the way of our freedoms.

Now, by this I don't mean we should join any "reactionary" groups either (especially on the internet) because they're mostly all infiltrated and that's not currently a viable solution anyway.

@VeganMGTOW @Mongoliaboo That's definitely a factor lol

@UncleIroh @Zeb You're right about that. But sadly, even before porn and electricity, the peasants were already experts on "just following orders" and doing whatever tyrannical governments say. Look no further than the British empire for instance. Even without this digital golden cage, humanity was leaning towards collectivism.

I hope we get to see a future where collectivism is punished (maybe with deadly mRNA vaccines?), but only time will tell if we'll be that lucky.

@Mongoliaboo Exactly. Threaten their job in the slightest and it's THEIR problem. We all experienced this during their pandemic, so there's no denying it now.

I've seen enough men defy their upbringing to know that genetics play a part. There is a shortage of masculine fathers to teach their sons, don't get me wrong, but that's not all this is and I know it from experience.

Calling it "white culture" is reductive. Asians are like that. Collectivism is great in war, that's why we're like this.

@Zeb Not unless you also replace the majority of the population. If you removed all the politicians and the technological systems they use to control you, you'd still be left with millions of people who put safety over freedom and are eager to submit to the group for comfort and protection. They'd quickly vote their way back into a system that hates them all in the name of "free stuff".

Government won't stay limited if you don't have freedom-loving men willing to physically keep it in check.

@Zeb The government is a mirror to the people, even a corrupt one.

If everyone sells their labor to the highest bidder, with no concern for long term effects and puts profit before values, why should the government be any different? Why shouldn't politicians accept Jewish money and screw their own spineless people? If we're too weak to fight against corruption, why should anyone do it on our behalf?

We're all corrupt and amoral, top to bottom and we will get the punishment we asked for.

Isn't it ironic that the people keeping this anti-male, anti-freedom and anti-individualism system afloat, are neither women, Jewish nor welfare sponges?

It's men, it's the average "not my problem"/"just following orders" schmuck. Not only do they accept the slavery, they enable it everyday.
Those who think they were "brainwashed" haven't interacted with them enough. Their passive-aggressive nature and subversive behavior is genetic to some extent.

So who's the real enemy here? Not big pharma.

@shortstories @sardonicsmile

And the kind of men we want to select are the ugly but well off? In that case, look no further than Brian Stelter or Tim Pool.

Which men are the cause of our current social degradation and corruption? The handsome but poor? Or the Jews? No seriously, do we want more betas who work for the system and make up for their subpar genes by responsibly bending the knee harder?
If we actually selected the dumb and handsome, you'd have a chaotic and masculine society.

@sardonicsmile He's not wrong. Soldiers and police officers are always taught to blindly follow orders, no civilization ever did that differently. Collectivism is great in warfare, nothing like a fearless robot army that will follow any command given to them.

However, that same collectivism that is so useful during wartime, is also a death sentence when you have prolonged peace, as it greatly promotes corruption. Men must think for themselves, even when told otherwise, it's the only way.