@37712 @Tfmonkey
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Just a quick perusal in Wikipedia, which I'm happy to accept is wrong if you can show otherwise:
Notable leaders and figures in the Social Gospel movement:
* Richard T. Ely - Episcopalian (Christian)
* Josiah Strong - Protestant clergyman (Christian)
* Washington Gladden - Congregational (Calvinist reformed) pastor (Christian)
* Walter Rauschenbusch - Theologian and Baptist pastor (Christian)
@ButtWorldsMan It does indeed solve problems. Whether or not it is the best solution to solve said problems is another question.
I've been hearing calls from pro-Israel reporters and correspondents for Egypt to allow all the civilians of Gaza to leave the strip to keep them safe.
Let's assume they do that and Israel kills all of Hammas. Who is going to live there? Are they going to let the Palestinians back in to rebuild their homes in poverty?
Many have lost loved ones and be quite bitter leading to more violence within a generation. Wouldn't it make more sense to settle Israelis in the strip? That would be convenient.
@dander Every time I see something like this, it warms my heart.
@37712 @Tfmonkey @Nazareno @BiggusDiccus, I agree. We don't need to be beholden to anyone as a nation.
@Stahesh @37712 @Tfmonkey I agree, rapists within my community need to die too.
Personally, I wouldn't want to see women in a conquered community raped because it's not necessary. Divvy them out as wives and servants to the men of my community to ensure they're under someone's care. Everyone who lives wins in the game of life.
Just because one conquers a people doesn't mean one needs to be barbaric about it.
@BiggusDiccus @37712 @Tfmonkey You can compare apples to oranges based on price, but that doesn't change the reasons behind why their prices are different. For reservations, the uptick in crime is obvious: welfare. I'd be curious what you know about Amish areas that is so objectionable.
@BiggusDiccus @37712 @Tfmonkey The biggest problem I see with how the US has handled these groups is not that they have let them exist. It's that the US has given them preferential treatment, which is not enforcing laws as they are written; it is unjust.
You can't compare insurance rates between communities near the reservations or near the Amish. They are not comparable on actuarial grounds. People forming communities is not a bad thing. That's call civilization--just not your civilization.
@37712 @Tfmonkey If you're looking to stop subversion of your culture, you're asking for perfect stability in your culture because any change is by definition subversion. You have to draw the line somewhere, but where do your great, great, great grandchildren draw it? Even if you are a hardliner against X group, they might not be. I also don't think TFM was suggesting that his system is a utopia; rather, it's effective to reducing corruption.
@Tfmonkey, I wanted to mention that the Amish and the Mennonites are formally opposed to military and public service; so, the only local politicians that will be sympathetic to them will be (as you said) "adjacent". They'll never be an official member of the community.
@ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic That's a relief.
@Scubbie @ButtWorldsMan @VooDooMedic @Tfmonkey How are you going to prevent someone from taking that gold from you by force: with either your own force or with force purchased with gold.
Might does make right. If you wish to show that anything other than force is the ultimate end of resolving disputes, please show me. I have yet to find an example of anything other than force, whether threatened or exercised, direct or by proxy, which has resolved conflicts.
@ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic Exactly. I'm aware that TFM doesn't mean Halsey or the Orthodox Jews in their communities. I too am thinking about down the road.
@ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic I'd like to echo ButtWorldsMan on this. While I am pleased that you came to what seems to be a logical conclusion, beware the fallacy of composition which is inherent in collectivist thinking.
There are powerful people in the Cathedral who are Jews who support Israel at the expense of their ideological partners, and that means we have problems caused by THOSE Jews, not THE Jews.
I trust your judgement; just be wary.
@ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic I agree with ButtWorldsMan this point about the cycle, and I'd like to add that because this is a matter of human nature, all of this would be happening with X ethnicity instead of the Jews if the Jews went the way of the Scythians. Who it is doesn't matter; what matters is what you are willing to do to preserve yourself and your way of life.
@Scubbie @ButtWorldsMan @VooDooMedic @Tfmonkey Incorrect. He who holds the power of force makes the rules. Whether or not he is influenced by others is another question.
@ButtWorldsMan I would buy a ticket for a techno-nior film based on this.
Yes, I am THAT DoubleD.
No, I will not explain further.