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@ButtWorldsMan All I see is a blown up hospital in the middle of a war zone while both sides blame the other.

@UncleIroh @37712 @Tfmonkey

I did choose the social gospel movement because that is what anyone would do: Someone finds the weakest argument being made and asks for proof or provides counter arguments. Because these are historical claims, they should be easy to demonstrate as being either true or false.

I agree that there are many of these individuals who have control over the levers of power. I'll stop posting on this thread now because it's not helpful.

@37712 @Tfmonkey It's one thing to say that water is wet or that George Washington was a president of the US, but if you're going to make a claim like "social gospel = jews" I want to see some evidence.

@UncleIroh @37712 @Tfmonkey Perhaps I was being too literal, but when someone says "social gospel = jews", I expect something obvious like at least ONE of the most prominent figures in the movement being ethnically and religiously jewish.
I'm happy to agree if it can be proven, but no evidence has been presented to demonstrate the point being made.

@37712 @Tfmonkey And while I know it's a meme to ask for sources, I just want something, not infinite sources.

@37712 @Tfmonkey
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sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Gospel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_T._Ely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Strong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Gladden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Rauschenbusch

@37712 @Tfmonkey
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Just a quick perusal in Wikipedia, which I'm happy to accept is wrong if you can show otherwise:

Notable leaders and figures in the Social Gospel movement:
* Richard T. Ely - Episcopalian (Christian)
* Josiah Strong - Protestant clergyman (Christian)
* Washington Gladden - Congregational (Calvinist reformed) pastor (Christian)
* Walter Rauschenbusch - Theologian and Baptist pastor (Christian)

@37712 @Tfmonkey That's a bold claim! Can I see your sources? Was Mao also a Jew?

@ButtWorldsMan It does indeed solve problems. Whether or not it is the best solution to solve said problems is another question.

I've been hearing calls from pro-Israel reporters and correspondents for Egypt to allow all the civilians of Gaza to leave the strip to keep them safe.
Let's assume they do that and Israel kills all of Hammas. Who is going to live there? Are they going to let the Palestinians back in to rebuild their homes in poverty?
Many have lost loved ones and be quite bitter leading to more violence within a generation. Wouldn't it make more sense to settle Israelis in the strip? That would be convenient.

@dander Every time I see something like this, it warms my heart.

@Stahesh @37712 @Tfmonkey I agree, rapists within my community need to die too.
Personally, I wouldn't want to see women in a conquered community raped because it's not necessary. Divvy them out as wives and servants to the men of my community to ensure they're under someone's care. Everyone who lives wins in the game of life.
Just because one conquers a people doesn't mean one needs to be barbaric about it.

@YoMomz @37712 @Tfmonkey Indeed, it is going to be difficult, but it will be a life we can live. To quote a certain jinn, "You'd be surprised what you can live through."

@37712 @Tfmonkey If you're looking to stop subversion of your culture, you're asking for perfect stability in your culture because any change is by definition subversion. You have to draw the line somewhere, but where do your great, great, great grandchildren draw it? Even if you are a hardliner against X group, they might not be. I also don't think TFM was suggesting that his system is a utopia; rather, it's effective to reducing corruption.

@37712 @Tfmonkey Isn't forbidding people from forming their own communities impossible by definition for a society because to have a society you must have a community?

@Tfmonkey, I wanted to mention that the Amish and the Mennonites are formally opposed to military and public service; so, the only local politicians that will be sympathetic to them will be (as you said) "adjacent". They'll never be an official member of the community.

@ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic That's a relief.