@Islamisright What? How did you get that from what I said? What I prefer is not what we're discussing here. I'm talking about what is effective and what is ideal for most people based on the effect choices have on society.
@Islamisright It depends on what you mean by "force". Some parents will enforce their daughters to wear various garments, and for adult females, it depends on the community. I know a Muslim communities that doesn't enforce anything that the females wear. My suggestion was to play with the intention of the level of modesty. I'm not speaking of my personal desires.
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I'm of several minds about the burka vs a niqab vs a hijab.
Maybe a system of gradation depending on how mischievous a female is normally or how attractive she is would be good, perhaps? I'm not suggesting that any of this is enforceable-- think of it as helpful suggestions or guidelines.
No covering her up though, that is haram.
@ButtWorldsMan Indeed. I am not looking forward to the coming hostilities.
@Tfmonkey @Mike_Microwave @ButtWorldsMan We'll see. Thank you for the info as well. I know you're doing the best you can like the rest of us just in your own disciplines.
@Tfmonkey I do think that you're overreacting a bit. There are too many unknowns in my opinion to say that we should all just report to our bug pods.
Why are you so certain after only a few articles which don't communicate large diplomatic movements such as explicit peace deals or large troop/munition movements? It's been less than a month since the start of the conflict and only <12k have died.
Remember small things like ham sandwiches can change the course of history.
@YoMomz @VooDooMedic Trustworthy males who are willing to work and learn are the most valuable commodity it seems.
@Pain66 It always has.
@VooDooMedic Where is her husband to tell her to get off tictok and get busy doing the laundry?
@UncleIroh @MrpoopyButhole @ButtWorldsMan This is the kind of conversation I like to see. Even if we don't agree on everything, we can have a good discussion and understand one another.
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@UncleIroh @MrpoopyButhole @ButtWorldsMan
A cosmology does not necessarily include ethics, but most religions do bundle epistemology, ethics, a cosmology, ontology, and metaphysics. I just didn't list them in my original post. Thank you for adding them. My point was that religions work because they bundle together all of them to provide a complete worldview that appeals to people.
In brief: people are willing to buy what the religion is selling.
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@UncleIroh @MrpoopyButhole @ButtWorldsMan Certainly: education institutions pass down values multi-generationally such as those inculcated by Oxford University, but I will concede your point broadly with the caveat that no religion or educational institution exists in a vacuum. Worldviews constantly change subtly over time, and the more connected they are with the the rest of the world, the more likely they are to change.
@UncleIroh "You pulled too hard one too many times, old man."
@UncleIroh @MrpoopyButhole @ButtWorldsMan Values must be enshrined in something to last beyond a single generation, yes. This was in part the purpose of myths and religions. Religion is not the only way though historically it has been the easiest way to pass down values because a religion that offers answers to ontological or metaphysical questions can easily propagate them beyond a single generation, but it must work. A perfectly designed religion that lasts only one generation is a dead one.
@Stahesh What a completely unjustified waste of perfectly good coal!
@ButtWorldsMan That would also not be effective because he thinks masturbation is a sin.
Yes, I am THAT DoubleD.
No, I will not explain further.